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Apr 9, 2020 9:03:46 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 9:03:46 GMT
Why do people love the sound of mistakes?
I could understand it with 1210s back in 93, when you heard the DJ give a little nudge and you knew he/she was trying to pull off an amazing mix.
But now, in 2020, with the tech we have and those halcyon days long gone? Nonsense.
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Apr 9, 2020 9:05:34 GMT
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Post by homegrove on Apr 9, 2020 9:05:34 GMT
Small mistakes.
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Apr 9, 2020 9:09:48 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 9:09:48 GMT
If I hear a top DJ making "small mistakes" now I immediately think they're on drugs, trashed drunk, or they just don't give a fuck anymore. There's nothing charming about it like it was back in the day.
How times have changed.
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Post by Biggsy 🦁 👑 🌴 on Apr 9, 2020 9:11:40 GMT
I even fuck it up when pressing SYNC
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Post by Smallman1 on Apr 9, 2020 9:14:17 GMT
Dave loves sync.
Particularly for those awkward Good Charlotte into Charli XCX transitions.
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Apr 9, 2020 9:14:24 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 9:14:24 GMT
Cox has been spotted using it for instance. Most people who DJ with Traktor. I mean most of them have set ups that are all buttons, Voorn, Hawtin, Dubfire, Moudaber, Liebing. All use sync all the time. I personally have zero issues with it with established DJs. Beatsyncing is a very useful skill to have when things go haywire technically, and everyone should learn it, but once you do know how to do it I don't see why you should. But mixing by people like Digweed and Dixon, who don't use it, does sound often more exciting because you can hear small mistakes. DJs who use over the standard 3 decks and use samples and drum loops would be acceptable for obvs reasons. That's a different story. Nobody uses it just for straight up mixing do they?
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Post by matt on Apr 9, 2020 9:21:42 GMT
Why do people love the sound of mistakes? I could understand it with 1210s back in 93, when you heard the DJ give a little nudge and you knew he/she was trying to pull off an amazing mix. But now, in 2020, with the tech we have and those halcyon days long gone? Nonsense. I think a lot of people like to hear the little mistakes because it gives you an indication that the DJ is probably mixing by ear, rather than just relying on technology to do the work for them. If we just continue to take advantage of the latest technology, disregarding any aspect of skill that may be involved in DJ'ing. In the not too distant future the tech will be at a level where it will be able to analyse your music library, pick out a selection of tracks that flow perfectly and mix them together better than any human possibly could. At that point, everyone will be banging out perfect sets all of the time, with not one bit of skill involved.
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Apr 9, 2020 9:25:11 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 9:25:11 GMT
I think it was Uncle John who said it best, "nowadays with technology theres no excuse for bad mixing, what sets people apart is the quality of their music and how they put it together."
Nobody really wants to hear mistakes, that's fucking weird nowadays.
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Post by sm001 on Apr 9, 2020 9:44:10 GMT
Nobody wants to hear trainwrecks but the odd mix slowly going out of sync and corrected is fine by me But ultimately it's the quality of music and how it's put together is what matters. But it's always been that way no?
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Post by matt on Apr 9, 2020 9:45:46 GMT
Unless i missed interpreted 303abuser's post, he implied nick warren used/uses it. I was wondering if any other big names do. Big name DJs just pressing a non existent sync button on a deck and just cueing tracks up? Anyone doing this would've been outed long ago so I'd say with some degree of certainty, absolutely not. There's prob Techno DJs syncing FX etc but in the context you're speaking of with mixing records/MP3s. Zero. Sync is a feature in software iirc, standard decks have the BPM counter etc. So the idea of a DJ just pressing Sync is a tired old cliche that doesn't exist on the big name circuit. Unless anyone has any evidence and can post so the flaming can begin? Yesterday, you didn't even seem to consider it possible that DJ's could be using "tech" other than techno DJ's syncing effects. You seemed pretty sure of yourself too. Turns out, you had no idea what you were talking about.
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Apr 9, 2020 9:48:49 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 9:48:49 GMT
Look, Flares. The act has fallen asunder, you took the bait. Where do you go from here?
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Post by Smallman1 on Apr 9, 2020 9:50:08 GMT
I like my mixing to be absolutely flawless with the tiniest hint of a mistake just so I know the Dj is a humanoid and not some Innervisions based hologram algorithm.
I actually think I'm losing the plot.
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Apr 9, 2020 9:54:24 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 9:54:24 GMT
By the way, we're always taking about BIG NAME PROG DJs (unless clearly stated), as this board is the mecca of Prog and Zackster.
So for the record - BIG NAME PROG DJS AREN'T USING SYNC, FLARES.
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Post by matt on Apr 9, 2020 10:07:57 GMT
Look, Flares. The act has fallen asunder, you took the bait. Where do you go from here? I just carry on as normal. You're the one who has made themselves look a tit. You can't sustain your argument so you resort to this childish shit. You're a fucking joke, and everyone who has read the last few pages of this thread can see it.
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Apr 9, 2020 10:27:39 GMT
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Post by LT 🍺 🤜 🤦♀️ on Apr 9, 2020 10:27:39 GMT
A personal attack? That's very uncharacteristic of the Matt I knew from Bedrock.
Must be a different Matt. Lol
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