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Post by industrystandard on May 5, 2018 15:25:20 GMT
not sure what your budget is, but the digitakt is great for that. That looks like a serious piece of kit. On the Ableton topic, has anyone used any of the online courses and can recommend any ? I have Live Lite 8 and was playing around with it a bit last night but no clue tbh. I had a look online for some random videos but think I need a structured start from scratch course rather than putzing around . Any recommendations ? |
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Post by 303abuser on May 5, 2018 15:35:52 GMT
have you seen the book that ableton put out? you might find that helpful (more for strategies vs. technical learning). makingmusic.ableton.com/are there other specific topics you're looking for? there's tons of good tutorial on youtube. |
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Post by industrystandard on May 5, 2018 23:01:41 GMT
Introduction and basics to start with. I’ve looked at a few of the videos online but my brain is somewhat “jaded” so the best way I learn is structured from the start, instructor or one on one . I’ve tapped up a few Ableton groups here in Nashville to see what’s around here. I like the thought of an online course I can complete at my own pace, going back to it if need be with maybe access to 1 on 1 q&a
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Post by 303abuser on May 6, 2018 15:02:37 GMT
i'm probably the least qualified person to give advice on the topic, but no one else has chimed in ...
i'm not sure there's a substitute for just doing it. when i'm in a creative mind set, i make music. when i inevitably get stuck, i youtube it. when the creative output just isn't there, i read about things that i think will help, from workflow and creative process to technical skills.
i think if you're goals are to make music as a hobby, that'll get you there. if you're more ambitious, then something more formal could be a better approach.
that's my 2 cents anyways.
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Post by unbroken1 on May 31, 2018 17:18:31 GMT
...always enjoyed these 'Against the Clock' vids, great to see different people's workflows.
Loved this one... you might not like his style, but seeing how a proper musician approaches a project is fucking great IMO
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Post by 303abuser on May 31, 2018 19:23:50 GMT
interesting how he used the keyboard to figure out all the percussion too, probably helps to have a piano background.
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Post by unbroken1 on May 31, 2018 20:20:36 GMT
...yeah he's classical trained to a very decent standard, gives you a totally different mindset I guess.
Great how he has the perc all laid out across the keyboard like that... makes me want to try something like Push.
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Post by 303abuser on Jun 1, 2018 13:22:52 GMT
haha i think i'm too musically inept for that. i need the ability to sequence and program percussion notes, learning to play seems like too much work at my current age and ability.
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Post by 303abuser on Jun 1, 2018 15:51:53 GMT
i've read a some of the ableton manual and the 'how to make music' book they put out, but probably could do with going through it again now that i've got a bit more experience. i find the depth of ableton a bit daunting, which is why i think i do better with the limitations of hardware. really wish i had nothing else to do, there's so much to learn.
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Post by unbroken1 on Jun 1, 2018 21:15:02 GMT
Always used a keyboard to write drum patterns myself, but I've got a piano/drums background so that helped. It's more intuitive, but learning to programme manually is a good addition to the skillset and I mainly do that now. I thoroughly recommend just reading the Ableton manual cover to cover, then reading it again before jumping onto You Tube, as has been suggested. There's a zillion vids on there by all kinds of weird and wonderful characters, some useful, some not so much, but it's a brilliant resource. You Tube generally is just a big juicy apple for sounds if you're into sampling as well. Gear demos are great for picking up little snatches of synths or patterns to morph and play around with. You can make entirely new instruments inside your DAW sampler from a couple of seconds clip. ...don't have an actual manual, but if/when I upgrade to 10 I'm considering getting the box version for this reason. YouTube is an incredible resource, but seems to me to be best if you have a specific issue you are looking to sort, it can be overwhelming otherwise IMO. I've collected a little outboard gear over the last year or so, but am very tempted to flog it all and buy Push 2, that whole tactile thing of having entire kits at your fingertips is very appealing, not sure you'd need much else in the way of hardware either. |
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Post by unbroken1 on Jun 1, 2018 21:50:50 GMT
Is Logic still a thing or has everyone bummed it off for Ableton? ...still popular (MJ uses it in the vid above), had it for a bit on my old laptop but never got on with it tbh. Just think Live is probably easier to get stuck-into on a basic level, there was a perception years ago that the sound quality was inferior to other DAW's, not an issue now. |
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Post by unbroken1 on Jun 1, 2018 21:54:20 GMT
Logic is definately a thing, but Pro Tools really is A THING. (if one can afford it) ...see it all the time in dubbing suites but is it that widespread for music producers? Not so expensive relative to other platforms is it? |
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Post by henry on Jun 21, 2018 20:19:15 GMT
Finally moved into the new gaff and finally got my studio up and running. Latest addition: Ableton Push 2, arrived today. I'm hoping this will help solve the same problem I keep running into of not nailing tracks as final. Seems really good so far and very different from working the usual workflow of wasting time hunting for shit in folders, samples, setting etc, and actually just being creative (probably still debatable). So running: Ableton 10 full Suite. NI Komplete 11. Both on Push and Machine II. Really like Ableton for putting tracks together. Very easy to use once you forget how the other DAWs work.  |
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Post by jules72 on Sept 16, 2018 11:36:32 GMT
Lads, what production software package would you recommend for the Mac ...this would be my first stab at this sort of thing...cheers
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Post by henry on Sept 16, 2018 12:06:56 GMT
So, me Julesy. It obvs depends on how much budget you have. If your budget is £500 then I would say you've got two options: 1) Native Instruments Maschine will get the some hardware and a huge bundle of soft synths. The package that is bundled with the Maschine controller is Komplete Select which is has some very solid synths and enough drum samples to keep you happy. www.native-instruments.com/en/products/maschine/production-systems/maschine/2) Ableton 10 - Suite (full version). If you've not used it before it might be a bit of a steep learning curve. However, Ableton have some of the best tutorial videos out there via their YouTube channel or their website. Such an amazing production and DJing tool, with proper upgrades throughout the version (including more free packs, feature enhancements etc). |
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