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Post by christian on Jan 17, 2020 17:00:51 GMT
It’s a good point. I have completely changed the way in which I view and associate alcohol. Before it was to get obliterated but now it is when socialising and not very frequent at all. Everything else that I was doing is what I associated with the escapism and also has a bigger impact on my mental health, which I why I completely stay clear. I was never diagnosed with being an addict etc, it was the masking of the underlying issues that have now been addressed and that I am recovering from.
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Post by monostereo on Jan 17, 2020 17:04:49 GMT
Good topic Dan.
I think when you're young you tend to take your health completely for granted, both physical and mental. Have to start taking better care of yourself as you get a bit older.
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Post by Smallman1 on Jan 17, 2020 17:05:08 GMT
Fair play to you christian.
Seems like you've gone through some really tough times and now have a brilliant perspective on what you were using, why and the effects they had and have moderated your behaviour accordingly.
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Post by monostereo on Jan 17, 2020 17:08:28 GMT
Aye, seconded.
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2020 17:08:59 GMT
Depression is a horrible thing.
I've been dealing with it since my teens. I'd never really spoken to anyone about it, Not because I thought that it was a sign of weakness. More because I didn't want to burden my friends or family with my problems.
It all came to a head when i was 23, It had got to the point where I couldn't hide it anymore. I stopped taking all drugs which actually made things worse. I was in a bit of a state for a while. I quit a good job, split up with my kids mother and moved back in with my parents. It took a few years to get back to what felt like normal.
Thankfully, as I have gotten older I've been able to deal with it a lot better than I used to. A couple of years back I started using cannabis and taking mushrooms on occasion, with no apparent negative effect.
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Post by Fabi Paras on Jan 17, 2020 17:22:46 GMT
Depression is a horrible thing. I've been dealing with it since my teens. I'd never really spoken to anyone about it, Not because I thought that it was a sign of weakness. More because I didn't want to burden my friends or family with my problems. This is an interesting perspective and I would say this it is a subconscious response. Why would anyone want to listen to my problems etc. But, we are now in a world where we need to share our problems. You had half a decade of issues, including having a kid, that could have been potentially been avoided. The great thing is you came through it. |
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Post by christian on Jan 17, 2020 17:28:32 GMT
Really glad you have come through and levelled out. I have read up on the micro dossing of mushrooms to help depression and there seems to be a lot of positives
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Post by 303abuser on Jan 17, 2020 18:14:17 GMT
Morning Brothers, I hope that you are all well today. Just wanted to see how everyone was really? An old work colleague of mine who started around the same time as me almost 30 years ago took his life on Wednesday and after being at another funeral on the same day I just wanted to reach out and say if any of you are going through issues you don't need to bottled it up. It's not a sign of weakness to talk about it. So, Man Up FFS and Talk to Someone. That is all really. Have a great day, FB aka DH sorry to hear, hope you're doing alright. i've been through this with a couple of friends and people very close to me and i know how rough it can be.
if anyone here ever needs an ear, feel free reach out to me. i'm no expert, but happy to listen. i think this conversation shows how common depression and anxiety are, there's nothing to be ashamed of. |
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Post by Grant on Jan 17, 2020 18:31:25 GMT
Sorry to hear these stories lads and glad you’ve come out the other side.
I’ve had my moments, but that’s all they’ve been. I don’t take that many bits and bobs these days, but definitely like a solid drink.
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2020 18:37:40 GMT
Really glad you have come through and levelled out. I have read up on the micro dossing of mushrooms to help depression and there seems to be a lot of positives Generally the doses I have been taking are small (1-2 grams) , not what would be considered a micro dose. I've taken them maybe 15 time in the last 3 years. Bar a couple of occasions where I've mixed mushrooms, alcohol and weed. Its been a very positive experience, the actual feeling while on the mushrooms and my general state of mind in the following days. |
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Post by 303abuser on Jan 17, 2020 20:12:21 GMT
psilocybin may turn out to be a really good tool for helping the recovery process for ptsd, depression, etc. it's finally starting to be researched properly so hopefully the world is starting to come around on treatments that don't involve the prescription meds that come with a variety of unwanted side effects.
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Post by ⚔️CJ⚔️ on Jan 17, 2020 20:55:23 GMT
sorry to hear of all your troubles, hope this oh so earnest of threads has been of some help to you etc.
just gonna throw a couple of things out there based on this thread and my own anecdotal experiences, one i think a lot of issues for men are caused by the fact that they find all women attractive but all women find only a few men attractive, i've never known a depressed man who is shagging a fit bird with massive titties and a tight minge, two if you have a toxic culture where failure or weakness or gayness or whatever results in the fear of rejection from the tribe you get the emotional dissonance of having to hide your true self resulting in a split personality.
As a Scottish man I think I have a pretty good insight into this issue, only the Finns have a higher suicide rate than us (they have the darkness and the isolation plus the access to guns) and i've been to several self-induced death-pissups including family members....
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Post by Incognito Audio on Jan 20, 2020 11:16:48 GMT
That's social pressures that's all a mirage really if you can see past that it takes the pressure off in life kind of what Eckhard Tolle would teach you. I've known a few guys who were getting birds easy shagging every weekend but they still weren't entirely happy. Everyone is chasing something expecting this big utopia when they get there that just doesn't happen and you wont be satisfied generally most of this is the job, money, girl, car, house I've been there myself but I've realised last few years just to live in the bloody moment more and to stop over thinking that man made rubbish.
I've inherited a health problem that uncertainty has maybe made me respect living in the moment more but I've been to the bottom of the bottle before because of it until I read that book. Probably only drink 4 times a year now, my mind is way more clearer. Health is number one guys sometimes a scare can really humble you and put things in perspective.
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Post by rhouses on Jan 22, 2020 9:48:18 GMT
Good on you Christian, I'm glad to hear you're in a good space now. Appreciate you sharing your struggles with us.
When I hit an especially rough patch in my life during college about 15 years back, I found clubbing (with the occassional cheekies) extremely theraputic. Friend saw I was struggling and put me on the GU forum (something i had been avoiding when I got into the 'scene') as well, and even though it is a bit unhealthy spending all your time on the internet bantzing with like minded people, it helped a lot!
Can't say I'm regular, maybe once a year at the most now, but I also found mushy sessions or doing some MDMA very helpful in bringing you out of that rut. Not saying go crazy on the stuff, but they make for a great reset button.
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Post by dutchy101 on Jan 22, 2020 10:02:48 GMT
This is a great thread and glad to see some of you are on the other side of it and good luck to those of you who are on the mend. The good thing is people being able to talk about it.
I had a very good friend kill himself almost 18 years ago to the day. It fucked us all up for a good while wondering why and feeling partially responsible for not picking up on the signs / doing more with him when we had the chance. I still carry a little bit of guilt about this today - I think a lot of us still do.
I would like to think if we were the same age again but in today's world he might have felt more able to open up to us about it so we could have understood / tried to help more. Suicide is a horrible thing - it destroys people's lives. His poor mum and girlfriend at the time were shattered by it - we all were.
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