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Post by Grant on May 9, 2020 8:27:59 GMT
You’re comparing a four channel mixer with a two channel mixer.
I think the XDJ-XZ looks a lot better for starters and for what I need and how I use it, there won’t be much difference in them. Rekordbox is better and that’s important to me.
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Post by Biggsy 🦁 👑 🌴 on May 9, 2020 8:30:21 GMT
Doesn't Recordbox work on Denon?
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Post by Grant on May 9, 2020 8:34:26 GMT
I dunno all the tagging and prepping would carry over?
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Post by Fabi Paras on May 9, 2020 8:44:02 GMT
I'm due a little windfall in a couple of months so might look in to getting the XDJ-XZ.
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Post by homegrove on May 9, 2020 9:21:32 GMT
Doesn't Recordbox work on Denon? Kinda I think. But it's far from smooth. |
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Post by matt on May 9, 2020 9:43:01 GMT
By the end of the year, the whole board will be rocking the XZ!
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Post by unbroken1 on May 9, 2020 12:15:14 GMT
...fairplay to Denon for having a crack at Pioneer's market, but I don't think they are there just yet. Dunno how the all-in-ones compare, but quite a lot of complaints about build quality of the decks.
Poaching staff like Rik Parkinson will only improve things though. Ultimately, the thing Pioneer needs to do to fend-off young upstarts like Denon, is to review their pricing.
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Post by Mad Cyril 😷 on May 9, 2020 14:00:51 GMT
...fairplay to Denon for having a crack at Pioneer's market, but I don't think they are there just yet. Dunno how the all-in-ones compare, but quite a lot of complaints about build quality of the decks. Poaching staff like Rik Parkinson will only improve things though. Ultimately, the thing Pioneer needs to do to fend-off young upstarts like Denon, is to review their pricing. Do they though. 1. All the top dogs use their kit. 2. They look boss. Put all that in the oven and a big plate of Winning comes out |
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Post by Grant on May 9, 2020 14:07:51 GMT
...fairplay to Denon for having a crack at Pioneer's market, but I don't think they are there just yet. Dunno how the all-in-ones compare, but quite a lot of complaints about build quality of the decks. Poaching staff like Rik Parkinson will only improve things though. Ultimately, the thing Pioneer needs to do to fend-off young upstarts like Denon, is to review their pricing. Do they though. 1. All the top dogs use their kit. 2. They look boss. Put all that in the oven and a big plate of Winning comes out LOL |
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Post by Fabi Paras on May 9, 2020 15:29:56 GMT
Tbf to Pioneer, they have tended to match good looks with good quality. Denon/Numark just look shit in comparison even before you get down to the spec.
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Post by industrystandard on May 9, 2020 21:35:31 GMT
I had CDJ 900s for years, and they were rock steady, but when I needed to upgrade I had the choice of CDJ2000s with old tech and wedge, or SC5000s. Went for the Denons and no regrets regarding price, features and reliability . Pioneer are due for a refresh big time on the 2000s .
Crux is though everyone uses Pioneer kit so it’s a tough market to crack . I just couldn’t justify the price vs features, plus I was never a fan of Rekordbox anyway so the Engine prime software doesn’t piss me off too much
The new SC6000s have a much better color combination and look loads more professional. Love the look of the m models
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Post by monostereo on May 9, 2020 21:49:22 GMT
Isn't the issue the same as "Vestax" had in the 90s? Pioneer (much like Technics before them) are a standard and in order to usurp them it's gonna take a major improvement in what the incumbent offers.
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Post by industrystandard on May 9, 2020 22:04:28 GMT
Think the improvement is there, with Denons having better screens, processors and dual layer for less money.
Issue is the brand image and everyone still uses Pioneer kit. Only Oakie, Darren Emerson and Laidback Luke I know use SC5000s.....😕
See what the future holds . Be tough to knock Pioneer off their perch, but they are giving it a right old go
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Post by unbroken1 on May 9, 2020 22:16:32 GMT
...did you notice Maceo used the Denons in his first livestream, then was back to Pio's in the second?
Its a bit like out-of-contract footballers flirting with boots manufacturers
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Post by Steely on May 9, 2020 23:13:48 GMT
OK last question from Grandad here. What are most DJs using these days? Are they still mainly using Pioneer stuff in clubs? I went ALFOS for two years and Sean Johnson was just using an S2/S4 with an old MacBook whilst Weatherall was using AH & 2 Pioneer 2000's. Couldn't tell the difference in sound. |
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